Available Volunteer Positions

Currently, there are two vacant positions on the e-Sword-users administration team that need to be filled immediatly.  To be blunt, if there are no candidates for these positions by 9 April 2011, this site will shut down on 13 April 2011, and stay down.

#1: Website Designer:

One volunteer to create and maintain this website.
  • Must know Drupal;
  • Web portfolio must be available;

This is a volunteer position.
  • Roughly 90 days to complete the site reconstruction; (This should cover all unforeseen delays.)
  • Ongoing maintenance will be needed;

Subcomponents:
  • Webforum;
  • Text Blogs;
  • Video Blogs;
  • Binary file distribution;
  • Sitewide RSS Feed;
  • Multilingual;
  • To be determined;

Branding has not yet decided upon.

Assuming a foundation for e-Sword users is created, this position would
automatically fall under the auspices of the foundation.

#2: Accountant

One volunteer to:
  • Setup a budget for this website;
  • Make weekly reports about income and outgo for the week;
  • Make monthly reports about projected income and outgo for the month;
  • Locate suitable affiliate programs, and ensure that links to those programs are in place, and correctly linked;
  • Determine what the expenses and income for this site for the last two and a half years has been. Ideally, a forensic audit of all financial data would be done;

Assuming a foundation for e-Sword users is created, this position would automatically fall under the auspices of the foundation.

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Perhaps scaling back the scope and vision of e-SU's is an option. Perhaps just being a depository of e-sword resources without the forums....blogs...pictures.....new memberslist....most popular content....recent comments....messages,,,,etc would allow for future redirection and restructuring.
How does D. Cox manage multible sites....he does it without some of the bells and whistles e-SU's has.There's always going to be future days to upgrade a down scaled web site with some of the bells and whistles above that I mentioned. The poll is useful but appears to be more of a "red herring" when one reads "closed down for good".Take some of the work out of this site which will take some of the expences and time and man hours out as well....but preserve the site and the original content and purpose it existed for in the first place which was offering E-Sword modules ! Perhaps contact D. Cox and see how he manages to do what he is doing.....or contact Dr. Dave or someone else.......they aren't competitors they are fellow workers in the big picture of what you're doing to further the spread of the Gospel and deeper study of it.
Don't limit your options to the FEW you offered in the POLL or it does seem as though HARVESTING THE SITE HAS INDEED BEEN CHISLED IN STONE. If you're done with the site just say so.....but ask yourself first....IS GOD DONE WITH THIS SITE......after all He is the One that started it in the first place !!!! As a final thought....Rick Meyers may have a suggestion or two to offer.....I know he doesn't have a dog in this fight....however it does seem what's good for e-SU.....can't be bad for E-Sword

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I second the sentiment regarding the simplicity of D. Cox's sites. His newest sites are, in my opinion, his most impressive; yet, they are also his simplest.

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Not sure how to volunteer for the needed people, but I am available and interested in the accounting volunteer position. I have a BS Degree in Accounting and have in the past owned my own accounting firm. I would be interested in looking into this position. More information about myself is available upon request.

In God's service,
Bill Huffman

William H. Huffman

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This is going to sound a bit caustic.....however after reading the opening lines of this posting.... :

Available Volunteer Positions

Currently, there are two vacant positions on the e-Sword-users administration team that need to be filled immediatly. To be blunt, if there are no candidates for these positions by 9 April 2011, this site will shut down on 13 April 2011, and stay down.

and some of the blogs being tossed around the past 30 days....and of course lest we foreget THE......Which of the following should happen to e-Sword-users.org:" Poll ....the decision to HARVEST this site has already been chisled in stone. Its alot like letting your date set at the table waiting for your return as you beat a hastey retreat from premises. HARK....I HEAR THE FAT LADY SINGING......!!

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dartmaster644 wrote:
and of course lest we forget THE......Which of the following should happen to e-Sword-users.org:" Poll ....the decision to HARVEST this site has already been chisled in stone.

The simple solution is to shut down the site, and not provide any explanations of why it shut down. It is, in the words of an ex-admin, " a failed experiment".

IMNSHO, the correct solution is to keep the site open long enough for the users to register their voice about the future of the website.

I am using drop dead dates. If the target criteria have not been made by a specific date, the project is dropped. No ifs, ands, or buts. As a management technique, it offers only two virtues:
* Predictable, non-negotiable dates when a project will be killed;
* Objective criteria to determine whether to keep, or kill a project;

There is a tension between using drop dead dates, and polling people for their input.

For those that haven't experienced the use of drop-dead dates, they do grate. They do come across as caustic, demanding, and totally out of touch with reality. The results occasionally can be bizarre. Bad criteria can be set. Nonetheless, go back to its primary virtue. A non-negotiable date to keep or kill a project, and why it should be kept, or killed.

For e-Sword-users.org, support can be one of two things:
* Time;
* Money;

The greater the available quantity of one of those items, the less the other item is required.

With US$100,000 in donations, e-sword-users.org can hire a full time accountant, and a full time web designer. With a volunteer web designer, and a volunteer accountant, there is no need for money for salaries.

When I wrote this post (Available Volunteer Positions) on the 29th, I had been contacted by one or two people that were under the impression that paid employment was being offered. I also had a vision of Foundation being established. The criteria I laid out for those positions, was based on the assumption that a foundation would be established.
I do not see any point in accepting a volunteer, and then having to tell them that, for legal reasons, their services could no longer be accepted.

I do think that a Foundation is the most viable long term solution to the issues that have plagued e-Sword-users for the last year. I am also acutely aware of the financial cost of a Foundation.

What happens to e-Sword-users.org is by no means chiselled in stone. The more I ponder the poll results, and their implications, and the more I pray about it, the less clear it is which course should be taken. (Where drop dead dates fail, is in selecting between two or more options that appear to be equally viable.)

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jonathon wrote:
To be blunt, if there are no candidates for these positions by 9 April 2011, this site will shut down on 13 April 2011, and stay down.

Is this true regardless of the direction taken? That is, would these positions be required to take the second option given in the poll ("Run it as a one person owned and operated website")?

If the volunteers do not step up, is it not possible to solicit donations to keep the site up "as is" for now and allow more time for prayer and discernment about the future of eSU?

Just a thought...

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That is, would these positions be required to take the second option given in the poll ("Run it as a one person owned and operated website")?

In theory, one person could do everything. As a practical matter, if the owner/operator was not experienced in Drupal, that would have to be contracted out.

The major purpose of the treasurer/accounting position is to provide financial transparency.

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and allow more time for prayer and discernment about the future of eSU?

How much more time for prayer and discernment is needed?

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How much more time for prayer and discernment is needed?

That's a fair question. At what point does a person accept that the answer to our prayer is "no"? And when we do, what next?

In any case, I wonder if there are other options for this site that have not been considered. Is a complete "migration" a possibility? You/we could agree on a location that offers free hosting--one of the many services that offer space for blogs at no charge--and "start fresh." By now, there must be Christian organizations that provide such space. Abandon any non-distributable resources still in storage (if they violated copyright they should have deleted as soon as they were encountered) and move all of the redistributable resources to some free storage location OR BETTER YET we could transition to a torrent/P2P sharing format.

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bible.study.software wrote:
How much more time for prayer and discernment is needed?

That's a fair question. At what point does a person accept that the answer to our prayer is "no"? And when we do, what next?

I remember one sermon on that topic that suggested that God never says "No". Rather, He either says "Yes", or "Wait".

At this stage, I'd suggest that "wait" is the operative answer.

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Is a complete "migration" a possibility? You/we could agree on a location that offers free hosting

An e-Sword user has offered free hosting.

One potential issue in migrating to another ISP, or to donated webhosting, is the current website vendor.

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By now, there must be Christian organizations that provide such space.

Several years ago I exchanged emails with several organizations that provide gratis webhosting for Christian organizations. There are two major issues:
* Data traffic;
* Content of the resources;

Data Traffic

When e-Sword-users.org was setup, data traffic was projected to be 1TB per month, within eighteen months. That is far more traffic than vendors are willing to provide for either gratis, or at a low cost. I haven't been able to log in to see data traffic for the month to date.

Resource Content

Regardless of how one defines "Christian", there are resources on this site that can not be described in any way, shape, or form, as even remotely matching that definition. I'm not convinced that some of those resources could even be described as "useful" for those who want to learn how to witness to adherents of the belief-system that those specific resources are targeted for.

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OR BETTER YET we could transition to a torrent/P2P sharing format.

For some resources, and collections of resources, P2P is the simplest, least expensive way to distribute the content. However, there are some major with P2P.

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Perhaps scaling back the scope and vision of e-SU's is an option.

The current setup of e-Sword-users might be as much as a quarter of what was originally envisioned. The first major upgrade was projected to be in place by March 2009.

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Perhaps just being a depository of e-sword resources without the forums....blogs...pictures.....new memberslist....most popular content....recent comments....messages,,,,etc would allow for future redirection and restructuring.

Even if all that is offered is resources, the popular content, and download count has to be retained for reporting reasons. (One reason that e-Sword-users.org can not distribute the SBL Greek NT, is because it does not have the reporting facilities to comply with the license that that resource is distributed under.)

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How does D. Cox manage multiple sites....he does it without some of the bells and whistles e-SU's has.

What David does, is create a site, and then abandon it, with most of the content migrated to a new site. After the second or third itineration, he hit on a format that worked, and kept it in the later itinerations.

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Take some of the work out of this site which will take some of the expenses and time and man hours out as well.

Unless web hosting is gratis, and the data traffic does not scare off the donor, the biggest expense is going to be web hosting. (A local ISP told me that due to the amount of data traffic, the lowest they could offer a 501(c)(3) organization would be US$1,500 per month. For-profit organizations, and individuals would be billed substantially higher.)

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but preserve the site and the original content and purpose it existed for in the first place which was offering E-Sword modules !

Offering e-Sword and Pocket e-Sword resources was one of the five original purposes for which e-Sword-users.org was created.

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Perhaps contact D. Cox and see how he manages to do what he is doing.....or contact Dr. Dave or someone else.

Dr Dave restricts resources to those that are theologically compatible with his sermons.
I've forgotten what David Cox' restrictions are. (Once upon a time, they were listed on one of his websites. They probably still are there.)

Both of them utilize components hosted and maintained by third parties, but incorporated into the site to look as if they are hosted on the site.

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Don't limit your options to the FEW you offered in the POLL or it does seem as though HARVESTING THE SITE HAS INDEED BEEN CHISELED IN STONE.

I find it somewhat strange that it was only after the poll on the eSword list closed, that anybody started hollering about poll choices.

The options in the poll at e-Sword-users were:
# Abandon the Website:
# Run it as a one person owned and operated website:
# Incorporate as a for-profit organization:
# Incorporate as a non-profit organization:
# Find an organization to adopt it:
# Something else:

The options in the poll at eSword were:
# Abandon the site;
# Run it as a one person owned and operated website;
# Incorporate;
# Find an organization to adopt it;
# Something else;

Those options are about site/organization _management_.

Things that are needed to know are:
* What is the future management structure;
* What are the current assets;
* What is the site currently offering;
* What should the site be offering;
* How should that be delivered;

The poll was about the first point.

At this point in time, I'm declaring that there is no money in any of the e-Sword-users.org accounts.(Whilst Sarbanes-Oxley doesn't apply here, I'm almost willing to sign the paperwork that act requires, under the conditions that it imposes.) The only other assets are the domain names, and _maybe_ some site content. Which is why I want an accountant/treasurer.

Skipping to what it should be offering, a complete website redesign in mandatory, even if no changes are made it what it offers, unless everything is switched to a completely different delivery system.

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If you're done with the site just say so.

To quote one ex-admin: "I'd like to keep working on the site, but I no longer have Internet Access to work on the site."
To quote a second ex-admin: "I'd like to keep working on the site, but I now am working 60+ hours a week at my primary job, and have had to scale back everything else."

The resignations of the various admins should have been more clearly stated to everybody.

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....but ask yourself first....IS GOD DONE WITH THIS SITE......after all He is the One that started it in the first place !

It is very easy to put one's wants and desires ahead of God's wants and desires.

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As a final thought....Rick Meyers may have a suggestion or two to offer

I have exchanged emails with both Phil and Rick about both the short term, and long term future of e-Sword-users.org. They were helpful.

jonathon

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